How long until we see carbon fiber cars?

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How long until the technology makes it's way to market? Is it still too new, or is it just a matter of implementation?

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I've heard it'd make cars many times lighter, which makes them more fuel efficient, but it's also stronger than steel. What're the setbacks?

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the only setback would be the price it would cost about 3 times as much as metal and the government would not help

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ford f150 is already a carbon fiber...

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We will see carbon-fiber cars just as soon as the government lays off the suppression of technology for their own financial gain. Carbon-fiber cars would be much lighter, like you said, so fuel consumption would be drastically decreased, just as it would with an electric car, flying car or hydrogen bike, all three of which have been canceled by the government and covered up. You can rest assured that any new commercial technology aimed at decreasing fuel consumption will be squashed into the ground secretively by the government and their greedy antics.

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and the fact carbon fibre is ridiculously expensive.. the professional road bikes that are used in the tour de france etc. I saw one the other day priced at £7000

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I've been following the composites industry for over 12 years, I can answer with a little insight.

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CF is brittle and rather nonrepairable. When a thin section breaks, it becomes as deadly as high speed carpenters saw. Steel bends a lot and can be bent back - CF bends some then snaps. Look down at your ankles - now imagine the floorpan was CF and it snapped and the edge was moving towards you. during an accident. Bleh. I'd take bendy old steel anyday!!

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Anyways, would you buy a CF car with a CF floorpan knowing that in the first 40mph collision, the car would MOST likely be damaged beyond repairs? Would you buy that same car after it had been repaired? Who repaired it? How was it repaired? With what parts? Who made the parts? How well was the design strength recovered?

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I can't see how a dealer/automaker would want to keep making major vehicle components when the car is say... 10 years old. If this was the era where every Ford used either a 2 or a 3 bolt starter (1970s) then parts from one vehicle would fit another vehicle and we'd have good high volumes for the aftermarket industry to justify making high quality aftermarket CF parts. Alas, today, everything in a car is custom for just that ONE vehicle, so aftermarket parts channels would need 30 different suspension control arms for one automaker. for that one model year, and a different group of 30 arms for the next model year. To check me on this, go find out how many different tie rod ends are used on 2002 Buicks these days. Then repeat the search for 2003, and you should get the idea.

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You would likely not be able to get factory CF parts after a short timespan from when the vehicle is made; carmakers would not want to keep stocking thousands of CF parts when the target cars are no longer being sold in their dealer lots. Aftermarket channels would be buried with demand and hopefully can match all the design parameters of the OEM part.

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Today, aftermarket STEEL fenders are still causing major crashworthyness issues. Imagine aftermarket CF suspension arms breaking at 65 MPH and your 6 year old SUV doing an endo. all because aftermarket CF parts weren't manufactured in as well controlled of a production environment as factory production and factory QC which made the original

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Setbacks are usually the learning curves, but CF is still niche and will remain niche for a while, so there will be lack of diversity to deal with as well.

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I hear BMW has a CF rear suspension in their SUV, the Lotus Elise has a CF floorpan, etc.

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They wont rust ----- wich means they last much longer ---- bad news for the industry
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