Is this mechanic bsing me about my timing belt?

Question:
I took in my '95 Chrysler Concorde because I noticed wet antifreeze spots on the driveway after pulling in. It has 110,000 miles on it. They told me that my water pump is leaking, the overfow tube on the radiator is leaking, and that my timing belt is "bad."

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I know that these things will have to be replaced. They told me that if the timing belt were to break it would bend valves and my engine would be destroyed. Is that true about the engine? Other people are telling me it is a lie.

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It is absolutely true. The concorde has what is called an "interference" engine. That means that if the timing belt breaks, the valves will interfere with the pistons. I am not making this up. Serious engine damage will occur. Recommended service interval is 60,000 on the timing belt. Stop neglecting your car and it will run a long time. Good Luck

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Listen to him on this one. You replace the water pump anway when replacing a timing belt, and vice versa.

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Timing belts need to be replaced every 60,000 miles or every 5 or 6 years. For the $50 it costs to replace a waterpum, you do it every time you have your timing belt replaced, because it's right there.

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On interference engines they CAN bend valves and ruin your engine, dont know if the concorde has one of those engines or not, but it's possible. If it's not an interference engine, it will simply stop like other people said, but you dont want it to get to that point either, because then you're at the mercy of a tow truck driver.

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not sure about that engine, in some engines the clearance between the piston and the vavles is very close. i know for a fact that in a deisel engine it will hit the pistons, and it is possible in a gas engine

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Most cars would probably need a new timing belt with such high mileage. If it indeed were to break then the engine would certainly suffer serious damage. To be sure google timing belt and do a little research. I'm not a mechanic but been driving for 34 years and had timing belt replaced on 2 cars with high mileage.

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You don't say what engine yo have. If it is a 4-cylinder, the belt is past due for replacement.
AS A RULE— The belt won't break while you are driving it. It will break when you try to start it, and yes, it can cause valve damage.
If there is coolant and oil contamination, the risk of failure increases.
If the engine is a V-6, most of them in the Concord didn't use a belt, they used a chain, and they have their own issues.
I would certainly listen to the mechanic, and if you get the sense that he is trying to get over on you, seek another opinion.

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it is fairly true... i have seen it go both ways, just depends how you are driving it when it breaks. if you are getting on it then there will be damage, if you are sitting at a stop light then the car will die and very likely minimal damage. i say that it is a little early for your timing belt to need replacement with only 110k miles. i would go for a second opinion to a non biased mechanic.

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He is close to the truth. If the water pump goes and locks up it will destroy the timing belt, as the belt drives the water pump. The engine will be dead in the water. It didn't destroy any valves or anything but it did leave me sranded in the TN mountains for a few hours. But that's another story.

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My water pump was leaking and it went low on fluid and I was in the mountains and it went downhill from there. Had about 47K on the engine. So you are way ahead of me.

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So, it will not bend valves, at least on the 3.5L 24 valve engine it didn't, but other than that get it fixed belt and all.

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i own a shop,and on that car it wouldn't hurt the engine,but it would leave you stranded somewhere,and you would be out a whole lot of money to get it replaced,since there going to be right there at it id just have them replace it there supposed to be replaced every 60 thousand miles on it so if your unsure of the mileage on it just let them replace it,its not a hard job and they cant charge that much labor for it,and then you can not have to worry about it breaking ,because they will snap in to ,and when and if it does your not going anywhere it, no longer runs at that point,good luck with it i hope this helps.

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Honey, your timing belt is what runs the timing in your engine. Yes, if your timing belt breaks, it can and probably will damage the hell outta your engine. It was suppose to have been changed at 60,000 miles or so. Besides, while he has the water pump off already, may as well replace bad timing belt, it's easy as hell to get to then. To have timing belt changed seperately will cost more, because they'll have to take parts off, including water pump, to get to it=more money spent unneccesarily. Get it changed. Spend a little more now, or a whole lot later.

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All engines are designed differently. I do believe that these vehicles have an "interferance" engine, where if the vehicle is not in time, the pistons will hit the valves and damage thier seating. I work in a garage and have see what has been the outcome of what happens when a timing belt brakes. None have been cheap and none have been worth repairing. I would have the timing belt replaced before you're looking for a vehicle replacment.

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Your mechanic is telling you that your Concord has what is known as an "interference engine".If the cam belt breaks on this type of engine the valves and pistons do not have enough clearance and will hit.I don't believe a 95 Concord has this type of engine,most Mopars have whats known as a "freewheeling engine",not an interference engine.

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if your timing belt/chain was "BAD" your car wouldnt start...at all...and it could bent your valves...if u were accelerating when belt broke, its highly possible...take valve cover off you can check the top valves there...might be able to see through oil filler cap...if your cars still operable, not gonna be your timing belt.not possible!
if your water pump is leaking...could be worn bearings, or your belt could need replacing...id start with tensioner pulley

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Don't sweat the timing belts replacement! It is just common sense to replace it on a high mileage engine when replacing the water pump as the labor is the same! Which is better: to replace the pump and 2 weeks? 1 month? 6 months later have to spend the same amount of money on labor to replace the timing belt? All the info I have I cannot tell if either engine that year is an "interference" engine. Interference= valves hit pistons when the belt breaks. The timing belt is only $100 list from the dealer. Labor for the job (water pump and/or belt) is the same at aprox 4 hrs. If the labor rate in your area is $65 /hr. You are trying to save $100 while spending $260 on labor that you very well might have to spend again in the near future? Doesn't make sense. The belt, since it runs the water pump and could very easily be getting coolant soaked by your coolant leak, should be replaced at the same time as replacing the pump unless you know it was just recently replaced and has not been damaged by the leaking coolant!

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Its best to have timing belt changed too because the timing cover has to be removed to get to the water pump with an interference engine its good to have it changed ever so often because if it breaks you could bend valves. Its cheaper to pay for a timing belt ,water pump and labor than to have to buy that many valves. I have a interference motor also had timing belt, water pump replace because it jumped timing luckily didn't bend any valves. They would have cost me $250.00 alone then would have had to pay someone to take the head off and install, that would had killed my pockets. Paid a mechanic $165.00 to change belt and water pump car is like new.

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Yes, its probably about time to replace that timing belt. The cost of having it replaced is far cheaper than replacing an engine. Since the engine in your van is an interference engine if the timing belt breaks it will bend or break valves, lifters, etc. It really wouldn't destroy the engine but it sure won't run until the bent or broken valves and other damaged parts are replaced.

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Pay for the water pump labor and part.
that will be the first deal.(cheapest)

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then,tell the mechanic, if He see the belt is bad call You,because You want to see it.
then,once the belt is out,ask how much "that belt" cost.
and bingo!! pay for the price of the belt. and not labor at all($250.00 versus $25.00)

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unfortunately the tech is quite accurate, on a interference engine, when the belt breaks, the cam(s) stop but the crank doesn't. ouch, you may get away with minimal lower end damage but the valve train will definitely give you a heart ache after that.
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