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Back again, I purchased a Kawasaki Vulcan 900 two months ago brand new. I added the extended warranty a $385 value. Since I'm really closed to the 600 miles I called my local dealer for the first maintanance svc. The guy told me that it would cost me $170.00 to do the oil and filer and if adjustments are need then they will adjust. I'm not really sure about the price but to me thats a lot of money basicly for an oil and filter change.
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Today is the last day that I can cancell the extended warraty (60 days). I was reading the terms on the contract and it says that if the bike is not properly maintain at the dealer the warranty would be voided. I can do oil and filter change with no problem. So my question is... Is it really worth it to have the extended warranty when they charge so much for reg. maintance? The bike automaticly comes with a 1yr warranty.
Thanks for your advise!
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if this model is over a year or 2 in production, extended warranties are generally another way to line the dealer's pocket. and something else i've noticed on metric's vs harley: metric's give only a 1 year warranty via factory, any make/model of harley.2 years from date of purchase.oil changes has got to be the easiest maintainece thing to do on a bike. u could pick up a service manual for the scoot, and the amount of coin this item will save u will add up rather quick. some dealers like to do 'scare tactics'...if the dealer dont do it, it automatically 'voids' warranty just so they can get a new scoot in the maint. bay and bend u over. as long as the maintainance is done to factory specs, u could take it to an independant servicer and have work done to it.and the warranty will still be honored by the moco.
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Generally speaking - extended warranties on modern goods are not a good deal. Most modern motorcycles are extremely reliable and you will only be wasting your money. In addition, the dealer mark-up on extended warranties is very steep. Extended warranties also won't cover basic maintenance or wear and tear. Judging by your extremely high dealer rate for an oil change - I would cancel immediately and find a different dealer or learn to do my own oil changes (which are pretty simple.)Anyone out there 6'4" own a XL 50. its a 50th anniversary 1200 sportster.?
If you're buying a first-year production model and would feel better with an extended warranty, contact your insurance company and buy one through them instead - you'll save a lot of money.
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My opinion is no. Not too many people put that many miles on a bike to justify the extra expense. Like you said you have the 1 year warranty so if there are any manufacturers defects they should show up within a year.Im buying a motorcycle soon. what should I get?
The extended warranty is a big profit maker for the dealers. If something happens usually it is within the first year and is covered by the manufacturers warranty. So you are forced to use their maintenance at high rates, which is more profit for them. It's a gamble but more often than not, you're better off not taking the warranty and just gambling that you won't need it.What factors are there when determining motorcycle jacket size?
Don't buy extended warranties for anything. They are a rip off. Nothing that you need done is ever covered.Extended Warranty's are not worth it.
Clark Howard as smart as he is says never to fall into the trap of buying an extended warranty.
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I think the extended warranty is a waste of money. You can do the oil change for about $25. Go to an independent parts store, and get the stuff. That's where the dealers make their money.Thats why I gave up motorcycling . I did it to save money over running a car and found maintenance ,tires chains etc cost a fortune . But thats beside the point . Consumer's Union says flat out that extended warranties of any kind are made for the Dealer's benefit ,not the consumers . They usually have too many exceptions ,are expensive (cost at least as much as your first repair )and the original warranty is all you need .After the manufactures warranty expires ,if you run into a huge component failure ,the manufacturer will often provide after warranty remedy ,if you can show maintenance records and reciepts . You need to go thru the manufactures customer division at that point however -look on back pages of your owners manual for addresses . .Remember a product has an implied warranty that it will satisfactorily perform to the standards to which it was designed -that means that engine or tranny failure considered premature under conventional standards (like 10,000 miles) is still the factory's fault and responsibility if the product was well cared for . And yes you can do your own work ,just keep any reciepts for supplies .
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It's just another way for a dealer to SCAM!, money they basically pocketed that n385.00 as pure profit, you already have warranties when you purchased the bike, the rest is just to get more money, the extra charges they want to charge you are rediculously overcharged, and be careful that once they get your bike in their shop, that they don't mess with it so other things will go wrong down the road! These are just trick's of the trade, I know I used to work for a car dealer for over 13yrs. and their all crooks their only out to make money, figure it out! This is why their in business for their's no more honesty in dealerships, especially because of the costs of running a business nowadays! Extended warranties are just another way to make monet off their customer's. The charges they want to charge you to change your oil&oil filter should tell you their trying to rob you of more money!When you try to cancell your extended warranty if you choose to do so, they might to try to give you more of a runaround then you think, it probably won't be an easy task on your part! They will probably tell you that there will be penalties when you try to cancell your policy, because you've had it for awhile, hopefully they won't but they probably will try! Good Luck in trying to get a full refund. GOOD LUCK!How do you paint Fiberglass and make it stay?
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Yes, I feel they are worth it.
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The extended warranty issue really comes down to the bike, the costs and your comfort level. True, extended warranties are a huge profit center for dealerships. Did we forget that this is a capitalist society and that profits are what drive businesses, pay salaries, insurance costs, etc.?Are 125cc pit bikes really fun?
But the truth is, if you got the 4 year Kawasaki extended warranty as opposed to some Slick Willy Insurance company's, at $385 you got it for cost and roughly 10%. That's a whopping 10 cents per dollar profit margin. Whhhoooweee, they're gonna be sending their kids to school on you man!! If you got the 1 year warranty you got it for roughly 10% off retail.
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Next, you don't have much a track record with the 900 to draw on, but I can tell you with absolute certainty that Kaw V-twins can develop an oil leak at the rocker box covers after a few years and several thousand miles. I can also tell you with absolute certainty that if you should have that problem with your bike it is 100% covered by the Kawasaki extended warranty. In fact, everything that is covered under the original warranty is covered under the extended one. The cost of replacing those gaskets, since the engine has to be removed to access them, is waaay more than you paid for the warranty.
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Want another example? Windshields. O.E.M. windshields are covered under the factory warranty, therefore they are under the extended one as well. Most windshields will eventually crack and spider at the mounting point holes. Check the price of a factory windshield installed, figure you'll probably at least replace one while you have the bike (if you ride) and determine if you think you got a bad deal.
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My VN1500 L-5 came from the factory with a two year unlimited milage factory warranty. I decided that since I'm going to keep the bike for a long time, and that since my wife and I ride a lot, having a six year unlimited milage warranty would be a good thing. YMMV.
As for the service issue. The first service called for by the manufacturers are more involved than a simple oil and filter change. Dealers are bound by the franchise agreement to perform these services to the letter. Typically they take around two hours to perform if done correctly. We get $60 an hour for labor, there's $120, now add in a factory filter at $12 or so, motorcycle specific oil at $6 or more per quart, spark plugs, whatever. We're at your $170 easily.
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Yamaha guys have it worse because they have to have valve adjustments every 4K or so (add an hours labor) and you have to remove the front pipe to get the blasted oil filter out. A normal service for a V-Star is 3 hours + parts.
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Go with you gut on the warranty. If your going to keep the bike, if your going to ride the bike, if you have a Kaw warranty, you got a good deal. Keep it.
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On page 74 of your owners manual is the periodic maintence chart. Indicated by a K is the things that is manditory to be done by a Kawasaki dealer. Turn to page 82 and look at the second entry. It does not have a K beside the engine oil or the oil filter. I also just recently purchased a Kawasaki Vulcan 2007 Custom 900 and just passed the 600 mile mark and was presented with your same problem. I asked my dealer would it void my warranty. My dealer said that it would not. They would general just do the oil change and inspect the rest of the bike for how it was holding up. If you ride hard and neglect your bike then I would suggest taking it in. Other wise I bought 4 qts. of oil (remember it only takes 3.2) and a filter for less than $40. I did however have a hard time taking my filter off. I suggest looking for the oil filter wrench cap. It works great. Also I hear there is a filter that comes with a nut welded on the top for easy removal. Good luck with your bike. I am having fun on mine. For the answer to the extended warranty just remember its like buying insurance for your motorcycle. You may not even need it but if you do, I think it will pay off in the long run. I also would like to invite you to check out my website and consider joining the Vulcan Riders Owners Club. These people are great. They have chapters all over the world commited to Kawasaki Vulcans. They also have members in your area that are willing to help you with any issue that you have with your motorcycle. They have a list that you have access to after joining that will tell you all the people in your area that are members and you can go on rides with them and if you were on a long trip you can have the riders list with you and phone numbers with people that have signed up saying they have a truck and trailer and are willing to come an help you out at the drop of a hat. I have heard of people that have helped bikers out by picking them up and helping them fix their problem, then taking them home for supper and a place to stay. Their site is commited to helping other people out. They have tons of websites that are just for Kawasaki motorcycle. They also have a question and answer forum that you have access to and will receive your answer promptly. You can check them out at www.vroc.org I am the Captain a new Tennessee chapter The Southern Volunteer Riders. Come check me out at www.freewebs.com/paracop35 good luck ride safe and ride far.More Questions & Answers ...
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