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I am around 5'11 @ 165 pounds to start off :-)
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I am new to cycling, and am thinking about buying a ninja 250 or 500 for my first "learning" bike. I went to a look at them and the person said that I would get to bored with the 250, and that the power just isn't there... I know that he was trying to up sale me, but I want to know what I can expect from each bike. I am getting a bike to commute around town(Tucson) for the most part, but I also want to get something that I can take on the freeway(85mph+ for a couple of hours) and not feel like I am pushing the bike to the limit... Thanks
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*rolling eyes* Good grief, as usual there are replys above from people who quite obviously have never put a leg over an EX250, or have decided that it's more important to survive life by leading a very bland existance rather than Live life. Neither answer your question.What does the scheduled maintenance for a Ducati cost?
For reference, I'm 6'4" and hover between 260 and 280lbs. I have 15 years of street riding under my belt, 4 of roadracing, and well over 100k miles. I've ridden rockets capable of just under 200mph (heavily modified), to 50cc pocket bikes. And I spent 8k miles with an EX250 in my garage (about half of those miles were mine, the other half were my wifes).
With me on board, it was capable of 90+ mph and would still leave a stop faster than whatever ricer was next to me and thought they'd "race". Others I know, have put in 10+ hour days at 80mph and never had an issue. It is Extremely comfortable for those with longer legs. And it can do 90% of what an EX500 is capable of... because with the EX500's added power, comes about 100 more pounds of weight to have to move around (both in terms of acceleration, but also in terms of handling). So long as your Ego can take the trash talk from those clueless souls who've never ridden an EX250, it's a bike that can Easily satasfy a person of any riding skill... as I found out myself. It's quite simply THE most fun I've had with a street legal motorcycle. If I had to choose between the 2, I'd take the 250 without hesitation, every single time. Heck, since we sold ours, I've been thinking about buying another one just for me... I don't need anything more, and only rarely Want anything more.
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For some biased information on the 250, come on over to the 250 riders club forums and FAQ, found here:
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The FAQ, linked above, has a Ton of good information for any new rider, no matter what bike you choose. It's worth paging through.
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We've got a member with over 100k miles on his 250 that was bought new, several with more than 50k, and several dozen with more than 30k in 2 years. It's a reliable bike that is Very enjoyable to ride for those who aren't wrapped up in the image part of motorcycling.
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Well, a 250 would be better for someone who has never been on a bike before in their lives. If you have at least some experience, go for the 500.
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Judging by your height and weight, your better off with a 500. Plus, a 250 is not gonna hit that high speed limit. It's gonna sound and feel better.How many miles will my Kawasaki Ninja 500R last?
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New to riding and you are looking for a Ninja for a "learning" bike. You have a lot of learning to do before you take the highways at 85+, sounds foolish to me.What's a good quality, naked, >500cc sports tourer?
Why dont you try dirtbiking first and once you learn how to handle a small dirtbike (I suggest a 4 stroke) then go take a safety course for street riding. Then rent a ninja, or borrow one to determine what you think you need.
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The only thing a Ninja will do for you is land you in a coffin without riding expierence (lots of expierence)
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Re-consider your decisions for your family's sake.
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Take an MSF class, then decide once you have your license. If the 250's in the class feel WAY too weak, go with the 500 - keep in mind that the Ninja is probably the most powerful of the US commercially available 250's.I personally have a '95 Ninja 250R and have been riding it year round for the last 3 years. I'm 5'8 @ ~200, I've gotten it up to about 105mph. and have been beaten from the line by only one car, and it was a BMW. It'll do 85mph all day without fighting you, though it'll do it more happily with an aftermarket sprocket set.
People as tall as 6'3 have ridden my bike without too many complaints about ergonomics.
As far as the power not being there thing, I've heard that about my bike by only one person, and he's a harley rider that didn't get it above 3000rpm. There's enough to keep you happy for a couple of years easily, you just have to not worry about it and rev the piss out of the engine. It doesn't make any power below ~7000rpm and is best from 9000-14000.
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While the 250 will get you around Tucson and be an almost perfect commuter bike (70+ mpg, liquid cooled), I think you would be hard pressed to keep it going at AZ freeway speeds for any length of time (I know you need to do 80 just to merge there!).How can I put car rims or dubs on a quad?
The $2,000 price difference might hurt a bit, but $5k for a new bike still isn't bad. If you can, try to get a used bike as your first one, because you WILL drop it. I promise!
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I think the 500 is a better bike for you anyway. You are the same size as me, and a 500 will have plenty of pep to keep you going while still getting around 50 mpg.
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Take the MSF course if you haven't already, and take a trip to Helmet Harbor to get full mesh gear. You'd rather sweat than bleed, wouldn't you?
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dont listen to these people, a 500 wont kill you, unless you have a bad history of driving, if you do then dont get a bike at all, if you buy a 250, you will get bored because there is no power and you will push the limits doing 80mph. a 500 would be a waste of money. I suggest 600cc because you wont get made fun of when ppl see your size and your small bike and you can do 85 EASILY and up to about 150mph topped off, dont worry, you wont die, i am 5'6" and i started off with a 600 and now a 750 and i understand that there is a lot of power but anything under 600cc, is not enough for me, everybody wants to be able to twist the handle and keep going, under a 600cc, naa you wont always get that kinda pwr, and if you buy a 500, next summer you'll be wanting a 600 or bigger, fact: 9 out of 10 sportbikers start off with a 599cc or bigger. if you hop on to a 600, dont expect your're gonna die, just take your time to get used to the bike and you'll get the hang of it. if you are only gonna get a 500 or smaller, definitely go with a 500 because you would look stupid, being 5'11" on a small 250 bike or even a 500. p.s. if you buy a 500 or below you will be dissapointing the motorcycle community and there is no such thing as too much power. RIGHT? I am suggesting a kawasaki ZX-6R 636, heres a link http://www.kawasaki.com/products/detail....sport bike clubs around St. Louis?
Yea it depends on your body size like you said, if youre slim and not muscular you probably couldnt handle the 500, id go with the 200, but if youre expierenced go with the 500, the clutch is fast on the 500 too.new to riding are u? get a 500cc water cooled rice rocket with zero training, and ur new name will soon be road kill. the 250 will be more forgiving to a mistake. on a 500, a mistake could wind up going 1 of 2 ways: a world of hurt, or a trip to the grave. a 500cc and up are for experienced riders....these bikes will do what the rider tells it to do...instantly. if u screw up doin a noobie mistake, that 500 isnt going to care if u cant hold it and it starts to get away from u.
statistical fact: the most dangerous time for any rookie rider is their first 6 months of saddle time. some rookies start to get compliant and not remain on guard for possible threats. some rookies overestimate their abilities, and underestimate that curve their about to hit, and find out too late that their burning in too fast, panic, and make the mistake that could either cost them their life, or cost them a very large amount of skin.....they clamp down on the brakes the wrong way....instant downage. being a new rider, u dont have the ability to handle speeds of 85 mph....if something happens at that speed that requires immediate and hard braking, and u dont know the proper way to do it, ur done...that bike will put a world of hurt on u in more ways than 1, especially if u high side it...that is, getting thrown over the handle bars; which will happen if u ever lock up the front brake on any bike. did i mention that 500cc and higher sport bikes have 6 piston front brake calipers? those are extremely powerful brakes on that 450 pound bike.
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ur first lesson on a bike is free: where u are looking, is where the bike is going to head to. say ur in a left hand turn. instead of looking far into the turn like ur supposed to, ur gaze wind up on the center of the guardrail. in seconds, ur bike is going to wind up running right into it. slow speed or high speed makes no difference. riding a bike is way different. different skills are required if u want to survive the ride. and being a rookie with zero miles in the saddle, a freeway is exactly the kind of area u have no business being on at this time. dont try to bite off too much too soon. it could get u hurt real bad. remember, car driver's have a severe case of blindness when it comes to bikes. particularly to sport bikes. their profile makes it extremely hard to spot, even for bikers that wind up stuck in a car for the day.
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take the msf safety course. riding looks easy, but u'll find out real quick there's more to it, especially when it comes to swerving and emergency braking.
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A 250 ninja is a lot of fun for backroads, revving the engine and going up and down through the gears. I think it would be a little tiring to ride on the freeway for any length of time due to the high engine revs, but the bike could do it. I think you would be the most frustrated with it around town, because you would have to rev it so high just to take off from a light. The 250 is best for people with short legs (5' 8" or shorter usually) who might have trouble reaching the ground on a bigger bike. You are the same height as me and I ride a Yamaha R1. I would recommend the 500. It's lightweight, fast, reliable, and you will be happy with it for many years.Why is my 2002 Ninja Zxr7 is leaking gas from the gas tank?
I have owned both a 250 and a 500 ninja. The 250 was my first bike and it's an excellent bike in it's own right but I think the 500 is a better beginner bike. The 500 is my daily driver and I've ridden it in 50 mph wind storms, icy roads, and flooding rain. Here's why I think the 500 is better:american made motorcycles pewter emblem?
The extra weight the 500 packs over the 250 makes riding on the highway much more pleasureable. Extra weight will make the amount of wind deflection from gusts, passing semis, and other cars more manageable. Don't underestimate this factor but if all you ride is in fair weather this isn't too much of a concern.
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The extra few hp can save your life. Did I just say that? Yes I did. The 500 ninja isn't exactly a crotch rocket and puts out around 50hp depending on the condition of the engine. Thats incredibly fast power/weight ratio compared to cars but doesn't come anywhere near stacking up to the new 600 bikes. The extra power the 500 has over the 250 will get you though the death zone faster on the freeway. You shouldn't parellel other vehicles in the first place but while riding on the freeway it is common to pass other cars. When granny decides to merge with you as you are passing through her blind spot the extra power on demand may save your life if the brakes are not an option.
Taking off from the stoplights will require less revs and engine speed at freeway speeds is much lower on the 500. Lower engine revs at cruising speeds is better for any engine and I wouldn't be too surprised if the 500 engines last longer for people that ride the freeway alot. Plus the lower engine speed is going to result in less vibration through the seat. I never really felt like the 250 had a vibration issue but I like being lower in the rev range on the 500.
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Even if you wack the throttle wide open in first gear the power of the 500 probably isn't going to put you on your butt. However, I do have 30 pounds more weight than you. The biggest power on wheelie I've ever made had the front wheel only about 3 inches off the ground. If you drop the clutch while it's way up in the rev range thats another story. It will wheelie if you dump the clutch but so will the 250.
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Both are comparable regarding handling through corners. However, I tend to lean towards the 250 here. It'll turn in slightly faster and carry a bit more corner speed. Provided the tires are good, the preload setup is right, and road conditions prevail. Both setups are extremely similar so you'd be hard pressed to notice on your first bike if you don't take it to the track.
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If you ride the twisties and get the most enjoyment from corner speed the 250 may be all the fun you need. I like that little extra torque on corner exit. A little extra power and a little extra weight makes freeway riding much more pleasureable for me and probably won't result in your injury or demise if you ride intelligently. Outfit the 500 with a decent windscreen and the touring possibilites are definatly there.
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Price for used bikes are pretty similar for both. A 500 in decent condition will go for around $2500 which seems to be about the price floor.
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Both bikes have excellent support available online although I tend to think the 250 user groups are slightly better. The 250 even has a REAL FAQ! Most of the 500 riders seem to have moved to the SV650 which is itself an excellent begineer bike for another topic.
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Get the bigger bike but understand you'll have fun with both. Both bikes are excellent with very similar engine design and handling. Both have LONG engine life if maintained properly and not abused. Whatever you do, get a used bike. When the inevitable lowside comes you'll be happy you didn't rash your nice new bike.
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