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Like all i'm hearing is that bikes like the honda cbr 600rr or yamama r6 will "kill" any begginer rider. but why is that? whats the difference between those bikes than something that isnt so dangerous?
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if u make a mistake on 1 of these...and rookies will make a mistake...on a bike like this, it will harshly school u on the art of freestyle asphalt surfing. they are designed to respond instantly and without hesitation to all rider inputs and commands. this includes an input that an experienced rider wont make...because it will put him down hard and fast.anyone can crack the gas and go 150+.that's optional. gettin that sled stopped in time before u smack that car that just left turned u.that's manditory.
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cars will left turn u in a heartbeat...and if u dont know how to use the brakes right, u've had it. and out of all the skills a rider needs to master, the brakes is the most difficult. u need to be able to stop or be able to seriously break it down so u can swerve around the obstacle easy. those that havent taken the safety class sometimes finds this out the hard way.u can NEVER brake and swerve at the same time. the bike will throw u to the ground each and every time.
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sportbikes typically have a 6 piston front brake caliper. on my sportster, i have a 2 piston caliper, but i have 2 calipers on the front. that still doesnt give me anything like the power of 1 sportbike caliper.
sportbikes typically weight in about 450 pounds..usually under 500. a small cruiser might already be at 500, and the tourers go almost 850 pounds. basically the equivalent to an f-16 vs a dc-3.
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insurance companies looooooove to stick to sport bike riders, especially those that just cant keep their hands out of the carbs. tickets will hurt u in more ways than 1 financially.
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They are Super Sport 600cc bikes with too much power. Imagine if your 1st snowboarding lesson was at the top of a very steep mountain. You wouldn't want to start that high on the mountain would you? maybe start at bunny slopes and work your way up.How do you know what seat height to get with an off road motorcycle?
or better yet, imagine getting your first flight lesson. in an F-18 fighter. And taking off from an aircraft carrier.What's the best motorcycle for me?
I love bikes. I used to ride them. Sorry, don't go for the power of the bike, cause could handle it well.What, I found, was the weight of the bike.
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the difference basically is the skill required to tame these bikes.an average family car would have around 150-170bhp and kerb weight about 1500-1700kgs.
supersport bikes have 120-130bhp with kerb weight of just 160-180kg.plus these engines rev very fast n high.
only a skilled rider can control such power n balance the bike. hence these are definately not learners bikes.
learner should always start with small bikes which are easy to control n wouldnt damage the rider badly in case of accident.
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These new small displacement sport bikes have a very high power to weight ratio. That means that for very little twitch of the wrist, you get a whole lot of forward thrust.There's a few ways this can compound a beginner's mistake on a bike:
You can twist it too fast going straight starting out, resulting in a wheelie that bucks you off, or an unsuccessful (misaligned) front wheel landing that causes loss of control.
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Ham-handed shifting in a corner may result in the real wheel spinning out and the bike "low-siding".
While in a corner, accelerating too fast makes the bike want to go in a straighter line, so a rider may not be able to hold their intended line in the curve, going wide.
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At high speed, any motorcycle is more difficult to control due to the laws of physics: momentum, centrifugal force, pronation, gyroscopic forces. Since these "little" bikes go fast so fast, there is less opportunity to work your way up to controlling them.
I would recommend something with a small twin cylinder or single cylinder engine. They offer less total horsepower per cc of displacement, but they make their power in lower rpms. This makes them less sensitive, (more controllable,) for beginners. They're still a lot of fun, too.
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Like those before said, they have too much power. Yamaha R6, Suzuki GSXR600, Kawasaki Ninja 600, and Honda CBR600 are all race bikes. I wouldve probably killed myself if I learned how to drive in a Stock car or formula racing car. I remember my first bike a 750 Spirit was difficult to get adjusted to since i moved from a 250 Rebel in a course to it after only knowing how to ride for a few days. If youre going to get a bike as a begginer and just want a motorcycle then get a midsize cruiser. They are easier to handle and youre not as liable to kill yourself. Learn how stupid drivers are in a bike you can handle and then once you see how other drivers act and youre comfortable with riding then move up.It's not just the power they have, either.
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A supersport bike is meant to race, and racing machines require CONSTANT attention, years of practice, and precise control. Would you try to race a Formula 1 car right after getting your license? Sure, it sounds like fun, but without the right skillset you'd quickly be headed into a wall at 150mph!
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The same thing happens with sportbikes. Take a small, unstable machine with razor-sharp handling, a 0-60 time well under 4 seconds and a top speed of 150mph and give it to a person that doesn't really understand its capabilities, and you're headed for disaster.
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New riders need to understand why you must lean to turn, why you never stomp on the rear brake pedal, and how to effectively transfer their weight. Couple that with getting the operation of the bike down solid, watching out for other motorists every second and dealing with road & weather conditions, and it becomes obvious why giving a sportbike the attention it requires can be too much.
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Learning to ride a motorcycle will take the rest of your life. it's up to you how long that actually is.
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If you don't use all the power and acceleration of these rocket ships, they'll be OK for starter bikes. But for a starter bike, you should get a used piece of junk that won't cost you $300 when you drop it at a stop sign. New sport bikes, just tipping over, falling off the kickstand, will wreck the plastic and mounting brackets.Any young man will be tempted to test his limits and the limits of the motorcycle. He's going to lean too far over or take a turn too fast, and end up hitting a guard rail. The Los Angeles Times reports that motorcycle fatalities are 40 per million miles, which works out to one death per 25,000 miles. That's a horrendous statistic.
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Now, middle-aged men (like me! *wink*) may be the age group most likely to get killed on a motorcycle, but young men aren't far behind.
Riding the motorcycle is not difficult, surviving uncscathed is. Speaking from own experience, a beginner does all the wrong things. I have the scars to prove it. Speed does not do any harm, stupidity plus speed is a deadly combination. Attend a rider training course first.
The more powerful the bike the more chance of an accident can occur for an inexperience rider. I have seen young guys riding at high rates of speed, whizzing in and out of traffic and doing wheelies on the highway. They have a sense of invincibility about themselves. They are also the ones with highest fatality rates because of their inexperience. Here in PA they offer free motorcycle safety course and provide motorcycles for the course, They are 250's and most of them are Honda Shadows. These are good training cycles and are not very expensive. However, if this will be your first bike buy used and pay cash, get the experience of riding before moving up to bigger and more expensive bikes. I have had friends who bought big bikes like Goldwings and rode only a few times then selling them at a loss because they weren't ready for a big bike. Nothing wrong with starting small and working up to bigger later on. In fact the smaller bike will normally sell quicker when you are ready to move up, then use the money for your next bike.
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