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You are the officer in charge of the 1st due Engine company operating on the scene of an MVA on the interstate. The state police officer tells you to "move the Engine because you are taking up 2 lanes." A woman is trapped in a car, and it looks like an extended extrication. All personnel are working.however, he wants it moved now! How would you address this problem? What would you say to him?
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Ask your self dose the engine have to be there? If so tell him to f**k off and explain his request to a judge at his court hearing!! After all a life is at stack and your stopping me saving it.If the engine can be moved, Give him the keys and git him to move it as you have a life to save and something more important than people trying to get home.i would say "Whats Up?"
in NJ emergency personelle are responsible for the scene until all people are out of danger - it should be addressed with that officers superior after the event is over by the rescue personelle incharge
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The police officer, unless he is a rookie "cowboy", would not say such a thing. He would not pull a person off the extrication. Besides, the engine would be deliberately placed in such a position as to protect the personnel and the injured party from passing traffic. If I were in charge, and this situation actually happened, I would ask the trooper if he wanted to be arrested for interfering with emergency personnel. Since the situation is not likely to come up, it is not an important question. Police, fire, and ambulance personnel work together at the scene of an accident with injuries.I doubt the state police would ask you to move in the first place. Not an emergency vehicle attending an accident..
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Are there any lanes open at all for traffic to start moving past? Are the injuries to the trapped person so severe that your engineer can't leave for two minutes? Is the new position still safe?How can i be a legal taxi driver?
A totally blocked interstate will cause tempers to flare all around, and could easily lead to more collisions farther back. It will also hamper other emergency vehicles. Everyone has a job to do, and the police are trying to do theirs. If it's at all feasible to move the rig without endangering anyone, do it as soon as possible.
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Do not think such a thing would every happen for the most part the police know who will be come to help them of they get hurt. Many cops would arrest just about any body if they were messing with EMS personal just by asking.What is the law for having a child in the front seat?
Also since there are medical injuries and you are first on scene you are now in charge, till a higher medical authority is on scene. people over property
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I just finished a vehicle rescue class today and one of the scenarios was a vehicle accident w/ entrapment on the PA turnpike. The instructor asked us how we'd handle traffic control and I stated that if the car is between the lanes then I'm shutting it down, and if it's on fire then I definitely closing it. I've already had a police officer tell me to open a road for traffic on an MVA and I refused to do so, based on the safety of my crew. Also there were only 5 of us on scene and we had an entrapment which pulled the need for all of us. I used a unit to close the road and they weren't happy but the car was on its side across the double yellow. My chief said I made the right call.More Questions & Answers ...
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